I had to use a car park in Wickford the other day to do an errand for my Mum.
There was a 2 charger bay for EVs, but they needed a specific membership card or use an ap on a smart phone.
If I were in an EV I could not have used it. No membership and no smart phone.
Would it not make sense to have them accessible by common credit/debit cards ?
#557 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:54 pm
by Nick
It seems that there are issues with multiple charging networks (yep, another thing that Tesla seem to have sorted), but I think the intersection between people with EV's and people without smart phones is effectively the empty set. No reason for a company to make an effort to reach non existing customers.
#558 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm
by Daniel Quinn
Charging at home .
A luxury that makes widespread EV ownership a myth .
#559 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2023 8:16 pm
by pre65
It's a little long winded, but interesting.
#560 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:43 am
by Paul Barker
Daniel Quinn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:26 pm
Charging at home .
A luxury that makes widespread EV ownership a myth .
Exactly. A showoff toy for the rich. Useless to the commoners.
#561 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:58 am
by vinylnvalves
Isn’t the long term plan.. that commoners cannot afford to have cars, so we all have live in cities/towns, and leave the rich free to do as they please.
#562 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2023 3:00 pm
by Daniel Quinn
We couldn't afford one if it wasn't for motorbility.
Not only do I pay for the car with some of my monthly pip , but motorbility paid for a home charger .
Also our house was electrically untied from next door years ago because of a fault . The rest of the street as tied electrical supplies and need untying if they are to have a home charger. This is a nationwide issue .
Untying require major work in which the outside of the property is dug up
#563 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:12 pm
by pre65
Harry's Garage on sustainable fuel. (petrol alternative).
#564 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 11:53 pm
by Neal
Excellent, Harry hits the nail head yet again.
#565 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:08 pm
by vinylnvalves
pre65 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:12 pm
Harry's Garage on sustainable fuel. (petrol alternative).
Not being pedantic... sustainable fuel is not zero emissions. But allegedly carbon neutral.
pre65 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 09, 2023 7:12 pm
Harry's Garage on sustainable fuel. (petrol alternative).
Not being pedantic... sustainable fuel is not zero emissions. But allegedly carbon neutral.
Correct.
#567 Re: Zero emission road vehicles.
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:11 pm
by jack
pre65 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:57 pm
Tesla founder Elon Musk has announced technology that he says will make Tesla batteries cheaper and more powerful.
At a live presentation that Mr Musk labelled 'Battery Day' he also teased the possibility of a $25,000 (£19,600), fully-autonomous Tesla "in about three years time".
I think that there are a lot of wrong assumptions here. Electricity is not evil at the car level. The production of electricity as well as the transport to wherever will be able to charge can be evil. Internal combustion engines were never good for the environment but they did allow the middle class mobility that would not have been possible at the time in any other way.
What I believe that the middle class must learn: range is what costs money and affects the "charge at home" capabilities. We will have to analyse our real needs and make adjustments to accept an automobile with 150-200km range - maybe even less for the commuter.
