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I watched this earlier, it's a cost of ownership experience between a Tesla model 3 and a similar specification ICE, in this case a Toyota Camry.

It's in the USA, but the comparisons are interesting.

Spoiler alert, the costs were about the same over 5 years.

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Spoiler alert, the costs were about the same over 5 years.
So given UK fuel prices that would put the Tesla ahead on total cost of ownership. They also don't factor in the resale value of each car after 5 years. But there is nothing in the video that comes as a surprise.
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Two further articles from the EV Myth Buster series.

Do EV’s produce fewer emissions than ICE vehicles?
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... l-vehicles

Making the switch to EV’s.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ge-savings
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I've saved this to watch when I get home, so I have no idea of the actual content, or if there is a bias.

JayEmm has (or seems to have) interesting opinions on EVs so might be worth a watch.

The Uncomfortable TRUTH About EVs: The Version NEITHER SIDE Wants You To Hear.

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Watched it earlier. It’s a pretty balanced watch vis a vis pros and cons.
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Ali Tait wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:02 pm Watched it earlier. It’s a pretty balanced watch vis a vis pros and cons.
I'd have to agree with Ali on that.
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I watched another video about an hour ago about how EV's are 'stock-piling' in the US because no one wants to buy them. ICE, however, in one case (a pickup truck I think) can't get enough of.
 
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I got to the bit about payment and using cash then gave up
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Yep, 40 plus minutes I’ll never get back. Opinionated illogical reasoning based on ignorance. Sadly, his truth is not the truth.
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Greg wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:50 am Yep, 40 plus minutes I’ll never get back. Opinionated illogical reasoning based on ignorance. Sadly, his truth is not the truth.
Say what you really mean Greg. :lol:
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pre65 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 11:10 am
Greg wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:50 am Yep, 40 plus minutes I’ll never get back. Opinionated illogical reasoning based on ignorance. Sadly, his truth is not the truth.
Say what you really mean Greg. :lol:
Yep. We should applaud those who say what they mean and mean what they say.
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I've just read about another Ioniq 5 in USA with battery damage where the quote to replace was $60K, and the car was written off.

BUT, presumably insurance will cover that, and the makers warranty on the battery is 8 years, same as Tesla.

Should give the owners peace of mind.
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pre65 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:13 pm I've just read about another Ioniq 5 in USA with battery damage where the quote to replace was $60K, and the car was written off.

BUT, presumably insurance will cover that, and the makers warranty on the battery is 8 years, same as Tesla.

Should give the owners peace of mind.
Battery damage caused by what? Manufacturer’s warrantee won’t cover damage caused by collision etc.
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Greg wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:51 pm
pre65 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:13 pm I've just read about another Ioniq 5 in USA with battery damage where the quote to replace was $60K, and the car was written off.

BUT, presumably insurance will cover that, and the makers warranty on the battery is 8 years, same as Tesla.

Should give the owners peace of mind.
Battery damage caused by what? Manufacturer’s warrantee won’t cover damage caused by collision etc.


"BUT, presumably insurance will cover that "(referring to battery damage).
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pre65 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:56 pm
Greg wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:51 pm
pre65 wrote: Sun Dec 24, 2023 1:13 pm I've just read about another Ioniq 5 in USA with battery damage where the quote to replace was $60K, and the car was written off.

BUT, presumably insurance will cover that, and the makers warranty on the battery is 8 years, same as Tesla.

Should give the owners peace of mind.
Battery damage caused by what? Manufacturer’s warrantee won’t cover damage caused by collision etc.


"BUT, presumably insurance will cover that "(referring to battery damage).
Yes but at repair estimate of $60K, I would expect an insurance write off.
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