General Raspberry Pi stuff
#241 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
XRDP doesn't work in Buster, waily waily. No sign of a fix too
I like XRDP as it starts a new session rather than mirroring like VNC does
I like XRDP as it starts a new session rather than mirroring like VNC does
#242 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Haha, spoke too soon:
https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues/1779
Right at the bottom, by Conor0Callaghan
Fixed it
https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues/1779
Right at the bottom, by Conor0Callaghan
Fixed it
#243 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
I'm continuing the subject of bbc streaming from the nothing in particular thread as it seems more relevant.
I changed the radio streams from iplayer to bbc sounds in LMS because of the imminent scare of bbc ceasing streams. All was well....until the damned pi has started buffering....
it's never buffered before...and it's been buffering on radio3 and radio 2 and now on paradise.....
the pi is wried(not wifi) and we have 50 mbits min download.....
the only change I've made is to change streams and store the links in my favourites in LMS....I'm suspicious
any body got any ideas to offer
I changed the radio streams from iplayer to bbc sounds in LMS because of the imminent scare of bbc ceasing streams. All was well....until the damned pi has started buffering....
it's never buffered before...and it's been buffering on radio3 and radio 2 and now on paradise.....
the pi is wried(not wifi) and we have 50 mbits min download.....
the only change I've made is to change streams and store the links in my favourites in LMS....I'm suspicious
any body got any ideas to offer
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#244 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Maybe have a second device also streaming from sounds at the same time, and see if that buffers when the pi does.
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#245 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Is this on all BBC channels?
Radio 3 uses higher bandwidth than others as it's a higher quality stream. RP is popular but a tiny operation - they may simply have server capacity issues at certain times of the day, e.g. when the US is awake.
I know everyone knows this, but it's worth restating that if you're on a shared ISP service (even on fiber), your 50MBs bit rate may not equate to a equivalent data rate due to contention etc., especially in the evenings ... when the US wakes up. I've had real issues with this as many of my customers are in the US, so I switched to an FTTP ISP service that has no contention and is, bizarrely, cheaper than my old ADSL+ service. Even so I occasionally get buffering but I put this down to the provider's bandwidth, not mine - I see this on RP sometimes too - RP have a map of how many client are active on an interactive world map... interesting to watch how it changes over the day.
e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/quest ... ing-advice
Radio 3 uses higher bandwidth than others as it's a higher quality stream. RP is popular but a tiny operation - they may simply have server capacity issues at certain times of the day, e.g. when the US is awake.
I know everyone knows this, but it's worth restating that if you're on a shared ISP service (even on fiber), your 50MBs bit rate may not equate to a equivalent data rate due to contention etc., especially in the evenings ... when the US wakes up. I've had real issues with this as many of my customers are in the US, so I switched to an FTTP ISP service that has no contention and is, bizarrely, cheaper than my old ADSL+ service. Even so I occasionally get buffering but I put this down to the provider's bandwidth, not mine - I see this on RP sometimes too - RP have a map of how many client are active on an interactive world map... interesting to watch how it changes over the day.
e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/quest ... ing-advice
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#246 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Most providers are pricing ADSL high now to try to persuade people to switch to FTTC or FTTP. Some won’t even offer ADSL any more if fibre’s available at the customer’s address.
#247 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Nick, with respect,jack wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:11 pm Is this on all BBC channels?
Radio 3 uses higher bandwidth than others as it's a higher quality stream. RP is popular but a tiny operation - they may simply have server capacity issues at certain times of the day, e.g. when the US is awake.
I know everyone knows this, but it's worth restating that if you're on a shared ISP service (even on fiber), your 50MBs bit rate may not equate to a equivalent data rate due to contention etc., especially in the evenings ... when the US wakes up. I've had real issues with this as many of my customers are in the US, so I switched to an FTTP ISP service that has no contention and is, bizarrely, cheaper than my old ADSL+ service. Even so I occasionally get buffering but I put this down to the provider's bandwidth, not mine - I see this on RP sometimes too - RP have a map of how many client are active on an interactive world map... interesting to watch how it changes over the day.
e.g. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/quest ... ing-advice
the questions in your first paragraph were all answered in my earlier post #243. Particularly the rate of paradise which is the same as radio 3 quality.
My contention is that nothing has changed except the change to BBC sounds and the system has been working with my current ISP for the last few years with no buffering.
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#248 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Apologies. Maybe it is something weird about the Pi.
I do get occasional buffering even with clients that have large amounts of excess horsepower and bandwidth, e.g my PCs, but they are windows, not Debian.
I do get occasional buffering even with clients that have large amounts of excess horsepower and bandwidth, e.g my PCs, but they are windows, not Debian.
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#250 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Hi Neal, not sure it's relevent but...
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1576322676 @ Sat Dec 14 12:50:31 CET 2019
no, hang on......
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.1 - 1676361197 @ Fri 17 Feb 2023 06:42:42 AM CET
Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.2 - 1576322676 @ Sat Dec 14 12:50:31 CET 2019
no, hang on......
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.1 - 1676361197 @ Fri 17 Feb 2023 06:42:42 AM CET
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#251 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
My version of LMS was updated recently to Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.1
It's running on a RasPi 3b+, and stuck on piCorePlayer 3.5.0
It's running on a RasPi 3b+, and stuck on piCorePlayer 3.5.0
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#252 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
hi Chris...I was updating my post when you posted...see my post #250The Stratmangler wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:57 pm My version of LMS was updated recently to Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.1
It's running on a RasPi 3b+, and stuck on piCorePlayer 3.5.0
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#253 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
ed wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 pmhi Chris...I was updating my post when you posted...see my post #250The Stratmangler wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:57 pm My version of LMS was updated recently to Logitech Media Server Version: 8.3.1
It's running on a RasPi 3b+, and stuck on piCorePlayer 3.5.0

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#254 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
more info....
after I reported buffering yesterday I rebooted the pi and didn't encounter any more buffering.
I then reported the LMS version in reply to Neal's question so the pi had been running LMS v7.9 for 12 hours with no buffering so all I could do was conclude it was a glitch and the reboot had sorted it.
following Neal's post I then updated LMS to v8.2...all is good except...
when I select a radio station from my favourites menu it then takes me to a new menu which includes a selection called play. This menu wasn't present in v 7.9......
I'm still debating whether I think this is a positive step....
after I reported buffering yesterday I rebooted the pi and didn't encounter any more buffering.
I then reported the LMS version in reply to Neal's question so the pi had been running LMS v7.9 for 12 hours with no buffering so all I could do was conclude it was a glitch and the reboot had sorted it.
following Neal's post I then updated LMS to v8.2...all is good except...
when I select a radio station from my favourites menu it then takes me to a new menu which includes a selection called play. This menu wasn't present in v 7.9......
I'm still debating whether I think this is a positive step....
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#255 Re: General Raspberry Pi stuff
Pimoroni have RPi 4s 4GB in stock at £64 and 8GB ones in full kit form only for £112.
Only 1 per existing customer, but at least they have them at sensible prices.
Just bought another one for a project ..
Only 1 per existing customer, but at least they have them at sensible prices.
Just bought another one for a project ..
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