Hi all. I have resently come to the conclusion that fullrange speakers sound better than the 2 and 2,5 way speakers i have been building for the last 5 years.
But i have to start somewhere and i just don't know where. I'm thinking a small floorestanding speaker with aprox 40 - 60 liters basreflex.
Now to the question. Could you fine people please point me in the direction of a speaker unit that will do a fine job in such a box.
I first thought of the tangband 1772 8" but i was adwised against it so now i dont know what to think.
I concur that for the money nothing I have heard can beat the current MarkAudio Alpair 12P but if you want something a little smaller then consider the Alpair 10P. In some ways I find this driver a little more engaging.
Pity you live in Denmark as I have a pair the A10P and A12P divers in similar design standmount cabinets for direct A-B comparison.
I reckon the A10P and A12P are perhaps the best available FR drivers in their breed and size in todays market.
Folk remark the MA drivers are not very efficient and for that recommend the Fostex or Lowther alternatives. I run all my MA drivers with a 5W 300B SET amp as I do belive Andrew on this forum drivers his A12P MLTL floorstanders that Scott designed for him and I built. In Andrews room the combination is very nice indeed and will go as loud as you like without distorting or the amp clipping. No doubt Andrew will confirm this. They are a very easy load to drive and I find they do not require any filtering.
So forget the Tangband, been there and sold on the speakers. The latest range of Fostex FR larger drivers don't really cut the mustard to my ears and all require support at the top end as they really are only extended range drivers. The MA do not require top end support but can gain a little extra air with a supertweeter coming in about say 12KHz or above.
If you post up what your design goals are and max size of cabinets I'm sure if Scott picks up on this thread he'll suggest a suitable cabinet design for you.
That would be with the latest generation Alpair7.3 then Though I know some prefer the CHP70 even though it really perks up with a supertweeter helper placed on top the speakers.
There is a largish thread on the FH3 speakers and if small floorstanders are your thing then these are very hard to beat indeed. I have built several pairs of these speakers using Fostex FE126, MA CHP70, CHR70 and A7, TandBand and unless you can corner load the Fostex don't expect much bass, though in their favour they are more efficient. None the MA drivers require corner loading in these cabinets as they are designed with a 6dB lift to counteract baffle step losses.
Thank you all. I'm happy to see that you all seem to agree that the best unit for me and others is the mark audio units. As i wrote previous i would like to build a basreflex. 1'st off all becauce its seem to be alot more easy 2'nd becauce of the design. But i must say that the frugal horn look migthy nice
Can the frugal be build with the ma 10p (i think the 10p might be better than the 12) please correct me if i'm wrong. Smaller units tend to have better midrange, i'm not sure if that's the case with fullrange units. The design on the picture can be build with a volume of 35 to 60 liters. Currently i have this solid state amp (nad 355bee) but i have a couple of friends with tube amps i can borough
What type of music do you mostly listen too? Its difficult to optimize a system to play everything, despite what some may say! Designing the system for what you like is the best is a good way forward, its all a compromise; that's the name of the game, I'm afraid.
Andrew
Analogue, the lost world that lies between 0 and 1.
Indeed it can. It is known as the Frugal-Horn XL. Plans are available from Planet10 http://www.planet10-hifi.com/, though I'm not sure if there is a small charge. Check out the thread here http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/full-ran ... 3-10p.html. You might have to join as a member of the forum for the images to become visible. I can pm you Dave Dlugas (Planet10) contact details if you don't care to join the DiyAudio forum. Send me a pm enquiry and I'll put you in contact.
Thank you very much Colin. I allready have a profile at diyaudio. But i will read the tread right away. If i would use the 10p in a basreflex. how many liters would the cabinet need?
