FE126 mini monitor.

pre65 · Post by **pre65** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:40 am

Following on from the success of the "routing project" which had a 4" Sony car speaker I was wondering about something a little bigger with a FE126 driver. The FE126 is favourite cos I might still do Saburos in the future.

The little computer speakers don't sound too bad even in the "big" room, although they need a few watts to make them sing.

Any suggestions ?

Toppsy · Post by **Toppsy** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:50 pm

How abot a pair of these. Nice and easy for you to hone your building skills Monopole FE-126 ML-Voigt http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthre ... ost1143794

EDIT
Here is a link to the plans for this speaker design. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachme ... -voigt.gif

pre65 · Post by **pre65** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:57 pm

Thanks for that Colin, that's the sort of thing I was thinking of.

Toppsy · Post by **Toppsy** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:02 pm

Phil,

Not much out therte for the little FE126 mostly for the FE127.

But if you fancy something a little more challenging why not try a pair the original Frugal-horns? Lots of Levels to go for starting with Level 0 through Level 2b. http://homepage.mac.com/tlinespeakers/F ... 130307.pdf

Toppsy · Post by **Toppsy** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:35 pm

Here is the Fostex designed cabs for this driver. No doubt Scott will be able to comment on the merits, or not, of any the designs suggested.

http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexcabs/fe126e_encl.pdf

Scottmoose · Post by **Scottmoose** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:37 pm

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planet10 · Post by **planet10** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:55 am

Toppsy wrote:Here is the Fostex designed cabs for this driver. No doubt Scott will be able to comment on the merits, or not, of any the designs suggested.

We built those. They burn nicely.

dave

Mike H · Post by **Mike H** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:52 pm

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chrisby · Post by **chrisby** » Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:08 pm

planet10 wrote:
Toppsy wrote:Here is the Fostex designed cabs for this driver. No doubt Scott will be able to comment on the merits, or not, of any the designs suggested.
We built those. They burn nicely.

dave

A very disjointed and distractingly coloured speaker box indeed - certainly for my sensibilities did not bring out the best of the intended driver. To paraphrase a couple of comments of Dave's from the session described below, "they just don't sound as at ease with the flow of the music" "you can definitely hear the box more"

Dave & I spent a few hours yesterday afternoon listening to a trio of "somewhat similiar" BLH designs for the FE126E, in preparation for a group session in a couple of weeks. Without revealing our "conclusions", any of these would be a better candidate than the Fostex design. As a matter of record, this is at least the 3rd Fostex "recommended" design that doesn't measure up for me to any number of open-source plans.

One of the group is a retail product, and the others are DIY builds, plans of which are readily accessible at the FH website. (specifically, the Frugalhorn/level 1, and the Buschhorn MKI, modified to fit the FE126E )

Neither of the DIY designs are particularly difficult builds - if you don't mind cheating with an air powered brad nailer, and have a decent table saw, you could probably blast a pair together in less than a day. Furniture grade finishing will take much longer than that. Just don't scrimp and use MDF.

As I've yet to hear a pair of Saburos, or whatever newer design Scott might have up his sleeve for the FE126E, my favorite enclosure for this driver running solo ( as in no powered woofer, or OB configuration like the MJK project) would have to be Ron Clarke's A126. This is only a slightly more complicated build than the BH MKI or FH, as the curved rear mouth is definitely not cosmetic, and the bracing of internal angled panels benefits from mitered rather than 90deg joints.

planet10 · Post by **planet10** » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:08 pm

chrisby wrote: whatever newer design Scott might have up his sleeve for the FE126E

If anyone is interested in being a guniea pig, Scott has come up with an elagantly simple candidate for FH MK II, and i could get useful drawings done pretty quickly.

Instead of trying to get max bass out of the driver, given that any horn of this size will give short shrift to the mouth size required, it is purposely tuned fairly high (that just gave me an idea for using the big void in it

)

dave

andrew Ivimey · Post by **andrew Ivimey** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:24 pm

Chris, it sounds like you have a lot of interesting knowledge about using the 126. You should share it with us rather than tantalise!

OTOH, the notion of adding a sub bass thing with Subaros! Nah, that's silly! You really would not want any more bass with these speakers.

pre65 · Post by **pre65** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 6:30 pm

[quote="andrew Ivimey"]Chris, it sounds like you have a lot of interesting knowledge about using the 126. You should share it with us rather than tantalise!

Yeah ! Spill the beanz man.

I also would be interested to hear about this new speaker.

Dave the bass · Post by **Dave the bass** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:34 pm

...and I've got saws and hammers and clamps and stuff and everything....!

DTB

colin.hepburn · Post by **colin.hepburn** » Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:50 pm

Dave the bass wrote:...and I've got saws and hammers and clamps and stuff and everything....!

DTB

Yep me two I've got the FE126s still in there box's just waiting for a set off frugal horns or something

chrisby · Post by **chrisby** » Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:15 pm

andrew Ivimey wrote:Chris, it sounds like you have a lot of interesting knowledge about using the 126. You should share it with us rather than tantalise!

OTOH, the notion of adding a sub bass thing with Subaros! Nah, that's silly! You really would not want any more bass with these speakers.

I think Dave is referring to adding woofer to the smaller Frugael

-Horn II (or whatever name it finally receives)

Scott & Dave's scribblings are probably not quite ready for prime-time, (hint, hint) but are based on the assumption of foregoing attempts to squeeze deepest ripple-free bass extension from a small enclosure for the FE126E.

The several iterations of prototype sketches I've seen so far encompass a range of few different ideas for the actually geometry, but the most distinguishing feature is probably the reduced number of folds.

I don't know that anyone could have more "knowledge" about using the FE126 than the fabricator of an award winning commercial product might have, but it could be possible to say that being a DIY hacker, and not constrained by the commitment to finalized design, I've had the experience of hearing the driver in a wide range of interesting enclosure designs - and still at that, not all extant or emergent.

However, what I do know is what I like; of the permutations I've heard so far, the A126 design is the most musical, dynamic, and detailed, yet least coloured of the bunch. Standard caveats apply - I haven't heard all the possible designs, and of course amplifier synergy, my room, my lifetime aural matrix - how's that for non-committal?

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