Nicks OB speakers

[andrew Ivimey]

And of course all this chuntering is good for the souls too! I think it is a pity we can't see more of each other; one reason because I think I'd slow down some and spend less money, cut and bleed less, too. Being more on my own down here (with a very demanding job) I just get 'obsessed'!!!!

But just a minute 'crap', CRAP, CRAP - my 6C33s!!! ??? Now then Nick... feather dusters at dawn at thirty yards - consider yourself needing a good slapping!

I'll show you crap - or I would ... if we lived a tad closer.

What sounds good at home sometimes sounds not so good at our 'do's - utterly inevitable. e.g. When Philip got his vofos from Ed, via Paul at Owston, to me they didn't sound so good. Yesterday in Philip's front room they were superb!

Will's last spread at Owston IMHO sounded not so good first day and on Sunday was really smashing - and I don't know that he'd changed anything. Some of those horn speakers were losing their bass in that big room.

NIck's OBs are rather good actually. But they sound like OBs (should?) and I can see why someone from another place is less than delirious about OBs.

Scott's funny speakers were downright beguiling but I wonder if they are really 'realistic'? and so it goes on and on and on.

We do take each other (quite) seriously so if one of us turns up and says' listen to this' we do. What we take home of course is enthusiasm and a desire to get on and improve and then we meet again. So far, I still think things are getting better.

Philip asked me yesterday, if you've got Ongaku, why do you go on and build more (and more and more)?'

I don't know - I just do.

Right now I am seriously worried about not listening to the music though.

[Scottmoose]

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[Dave the bass]

I really enjoy EVERYTHING about these events ('cept going home).

Ta for accepting me the way I am

DTB

[steve s]

I get alot out of the meets , thats why i dont mind the effort getting them organised and bossing every one on the day...

well a little bit of power...

i'm well into old speaker books
i was reading one from the late 50's last night about setting systems up in conset halls when stereo 1st came out, they would set a up a live 'band' and record and play it back

those tests in this country the main speakers where open baffles, used quad amps and 301 decks, the decks mounted on heavy plinths and then isolated.. does that sound familiar..
they had a right job getting things to sound right in a large hall..

any how, my point..

home systems can all sound quite reasonable in the living room, but put them in a hall and the faults become more apparent
a sprat becomes a mackrel as they say...

using my horns in a big room showed up their flaws, that where not that apparent in a smaller room
but never the less.. where there


it is also very difficult and quite a skill to reconise all the flaws without a quick change A/B..
and you may be A/Bing with another set of flaws?


I've heard people recall equipment they have heard in the past and then compare it with something else a year after..
I would be totally amazed if these comparisons where totally accurate..

i remember hearing esl57s many years ago at a dealers and not being impressed at all.
but the pair i have really suprised me after Ed set them up..
but a quick A/B showed all to easily their slight weakness
but nothing like i thought they had..

nick and simon have changed my veiw about 300b amps

nick changed my veiw about balffles

all as a result of our meets..

gregs point about home listening is correct,

I see the skill is putting the listening at our meets into context.. which seems to get easier the more (slightly) skilled you become as a listener...

i seem to remember gregs system at an eggfest needing a cd change quickly after a few seconds of eva c brought out something that should not be there ....mmm
big rooms are a challange...

but is there a better way?

cheers steve

[andrew Ivimey]

lets just go with the flow.

I enjoy our meets. I think we all do.

if someone doesn't and they care, they can propose something different.

that's okay.

[pre65]

I

Ta for accepting me the way I am

DTB

Hi-thing is Dave-You are UNIQUE.

But then we all are.(except for the anorak)

[Paul Barker]

(except for the anorak)

Which one is that?

Actually if you like to watch anorak's you should join me and my uncle (I only go to take him, honest) the queue at Harrogate Model Engineering Rally.

[IslandPink]

"I think we are the best batch yet
....Overwhelming technique"


Anyone going to ETF this year, btw ?

MJ

[Nick]

Anyone going to ETF this year, btw ?

I was very, very, tempted, but sanity got the better of me.

[Paul Barker]

I too shall have to pass for another year. I would love to go to another thing like vsac one day.

[Dave the bass]

"I think we are the best batch yet
....Overwhelming technique"


Anyone going to ETF this year, btw ?

MJ

Another CB quote

Whats an ETF?

Puzzled of Kent.

[Andrew]

European Triode Fest - sort of Witham fest but more organized than we are, personally I like our organic approach to these events, that's part of the fun.

cheers,

-- Andrew

[Dave the bass]

Thanks Andrew,

I'd never heard of it before.

DTB

[Andrew]

Well its bigger too! And has guest speakers etc...so bit like a conference but with valves.

cheers,

-- Andrew