Sakuma inspired headphone amp

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Blummin 'eck. Sure beats my ideas of an Aikido using 6H30s, well at least it does on size.

Reminiscent of Stephen's (izzywizzy) 813 push pull amp I believe you had to walk around it to work on it :shock:

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Interesting thing I have found tonight, connecting headphones the big problem was noise (white) not hum as I expected, and the source of noise seems to be the DC heater supply for the first 211. I have added a hum pot which lets me null it a bit, but it will need a better solution. So I need a heater supply that sounds good, and is quieter than a tent labs supply. (and does 10v @ 3.25A)
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So its broadband noise produced by the regs in the tent supply?
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Probably not related at all but I found when I was playing around with the Aikido headphone amp that listening with headphones I was a aware of all sorts of sound issues that I don't think I would have been with an amp used through speakers. There seems to be something very "dialled in" about headphones.
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Andrew wrote:So its broadband noise produced by the regs in the tent supply?
I can only assume so, it nulls in the same way as AC would.
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Have you 'scoped it? Will it filter out with a low pass filter? I tried a cap multiiplier of the LCR and I think it has improved things but that might screw up the Tent modules, I haven't studied the circuit on those things.

Just random late night thoughts....

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Andrew wrote:Have you 'scoped it? Will it filter out with a low pass filter? I tried a cap multiiplier of the LCR and I think it has improved things but that might screw up the Tent modules, I haven't studied the circuit on those things.

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I have been having similar thoughts. I was wondering about a choke or too as well.
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Did you mean a CLC supply and not use the Tent modules, or a ferrites to knock out the HF? Both came to my mind.

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Hmm, both also. I was also thinking aboiut a seres VR followed by a emmiter follower, then a choke in each lead.
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Of course VR valves have their own tuppence of noise too, but tameable, surely!
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andrew Ivimey wrote:Of course VR valves have their own tuppence of noise too, but tameable, surely!
I think Nick meant a series reg LM317 type thingy, but I'm not certain.

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My mistake I meand VR = voltage reg, I was thinking of a three pin reg, then the VBE to reduce noise.
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yeah that might do it! I just like the flashy glow! - nb, I too have a pair of 866s glowing nicely in the wings!
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